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Abduction Digest, Number 86
Sunday, February 14th 1993
(C) Copyright 1992 Paranet Information Service. All Rights Reserved.
Today's Topics:
New
Ideas...
Abductions
Ideas...
New
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From: Sheldon.Wernikoff@f201.n350.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Sheldon Wernikoff)
Subject: New
Date: 12 Feb 93 05:00:00 GMT
BS>As you know I have my own experiences and am sort of waiting until there is
BS>someone that knows something in this area (Florida) before I pursue any
BS>further.
BS>I have been away for several months and was just wondering.
Hi Bill, when you do eventually link up with someone in FL,
I'm sure we would all be interested in the follow-up.
Your posted case sounded quite intriguing. Have things
quieted down lately?
--Sheldon
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From: John.Powell@f601.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Powell)
Subject: Ideas...
Date: 9 Feb 93 04:55:00 GMT
-=> Quoting Michael Corbin to All <=-
MC> As far as the abduction
MC> phenomenon goes, David Jacobs has stated that at times an
MC> attempt has been made to videotape an abduction in
MC> progress, but very little has occurred to show this in
MC> progress.
>From what I've read these videotaping attempts were poorly conceived and
executed. I haven't heard of a single credible attempt and I think that
is surprising and acutely revealing.
MC> I also noted that at times some of the victims
MC> reported a fluid left behind but it often disappeared or
MC> washed off and was not retrieved.
Not a _single_ specimen? Amazing. This is only slightly related but
didn't Ed Walters report a black substance under his fingernails after a
"UFO incident" and wasn't a specimen given to the onsite investigators?
Did this ever get analyzed?
MC> However, there is another aspect of this that has not been addressed
MC> to anyone's satisfaction, although we have heard numerous
MC> reports coming forth alleging that a breakthrough might be
MC> on the horizon. That is the reported incidence of
MC> implants. What has happened with this aspect?
According to Linda Howe (11/91) the new and improved version is made of
a fleshy substance that makes them undetectable and they are also
completely biodegradable. (!) The old classic versions, with the little
wires poking out of them, are suppossedly being studied by scientists at
MIT - according to Jim Greenen, among others - and as recently as a few
months ago Hopkins was showing photographs of them at conventions and
proclaiming that they were currently being studied...
MC> Finally, if we wanted to instrument and measure the
MC> phenomenon, what would we look for and how would we go
MC> about measuring it?
It sort of made sense to me to try to slice the phenomenon right down
the middle thus reducing the noise level by 50% if possible so I thought
that something that tried to establish Objectively Physical versus
Subjectively Whatever would be a good start.
Videotaping and/or filming from several devices from several angles made
sense. Permanently mounted in sealed 'cabinets' of some sort,
tamperproof, remote on/off. Isolated power, sheilded cables, realtime
metering and such in case the electricity gets zapped. Basic
environmental monitoring like humidity, temperature, etc. Exotic
environmental monitoring like EMF, microwaves, etc. At this point it
starts to make a bit of sense to serialize the data streams realtime and
archive to tape or disk, maybe use a PC to hub all of the gear.
(Most of the credit for this very boiled-down layout goes to a dozen
folks from Odyssey who have been discussing this for a few months...)
It _IS_ possible to do this cheaply _and_ with credibility. Obviously,
placing the videocamera on a tripod in the corner in the bedroom next to
the rocking chair and asking the Abductee to switch it on before he or
she retires for the evening is so utterly silly that it deserves no
further comment.
However, placing the videocamera in a metal box, one side of which has
been replaced with a piece of glass, that is bolted from the inside to a
sturdy stand is _NOT_ going to cost a fortune. One of those easy to
find light timers (to fake out the would-be burglars into thinking that
you're really home and that you turn on your lights every night at
exactly 7:00pm) might be able to handle the on/off.
(Hechingers supplies the sheet metal, sheet metal screws, lag bolts,
pane of glass and aquarium sealer as well as an assortment of electrical
outlet timers. They'll even snip it to your specifications if you ask
nicely. Probably cost $50 for this stuff max.)
I'll bet for $20 the tech at the local camera store could rewire the
videocamera to start recording when powered on - especially if you buy
the videocamera there...
Thanks, take care.
John.
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<Absence of Evidence is not Evidence of Absence>
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From: David.Jacobs@p0.f21.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (David Jacobs)
Subject: Abductions
Date: 13 Feb 93 06:34:04 GMT
1. I have heard of a few cases in which the abductee claimed to either have
gained time or to have been in a situation where they drove home after the
abduction and arrived only a few minutes after they left--a time distance of
two hours should have elapsed. Unfortunately, neither of these cases has been
investigated so I cannot say for sure what has happened in them.
2. I suppose that it is possible that "hypbrids" are walking around unaware
of their situation, but we have found no evidence for this as of yet. However,
this is not as far fetched a possibility as one would imagine. Afterall, we are
still in the process of defining the parameters of the abduction phenomenon.
Until we know exactly what is going on, we must make allowances for any
eventuality.
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From: David.Jacobs@p0.f21.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (David Jacobs)
Subject: Ideas...
Date: 13 Feb 93 06:42:54 GMT
Steve,
The fluid that I collected that has been left behind is usually of a
brown-rust color that can be found on any article of the abductee's clothing.
From what I can gather, the aliens use the fluid on the abductee's body (for
reasons we do not know) and every once in a while a few drops of it will splash
off the abductee's body and on to the floor. If the abductee has his or her
clothes on the floor next to the table, a few of the drops might land on the
clothes.
We have no evidence that aliens have genitals--at least there are none
that are apparent. We have no evidence of any form of intercourse between
human's and aliens. However, there is some evidence of this between hybrids
and aliens. This is an area that we might have some success in searching for
stains that you mentioned.
--
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From: David.Jacobs@p0.f21.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (David Jacobs)
Subject: New
Date: 13 Feb 93 06:54:09 GMT
Hi Bill,
So far Budd Hopkins, John Carpenter, and I have conducted two workshops
for Mental Health Professionals. The first was in New York City and the
second was in Los Angeles. The third workshop will be at the end of March in
Atlanta. Perhaps some people will come up from Florida for that one.
Incidentally, John Mack will join us for the upcoming workshop.
Bill, Send me a postcard with your address on it again. I might be able to
find someone for you now. I feel a lot better about the help situation
recently because we have been finding quite a lot of sincere mental health
professionals who desire to learn more about this phenomenon. Budd and I have
put together a "primer" on how to do regressive hypnosis of potential
abductees that wea re sending out to as many interested professionals as we
can. I believe that it will be published in the upcoming JUFOS. We are hoping
to help standardize methodology so that investigators and therapists can all
be on the same playing field.
Talk to you later--David.
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